Crossfit

[Gunny]

Anyone do Crossfit? I have been doing it for half of my workouts each week.

[AronSchH3]

I've been doing crossfit for something like 3 weeks. My boyfriend has been doing it for over a year and convinced me to try it. Its pretty brutal...I'm doing about 2-3 days a week right now and have been focusing on learning technique. I can see why you mentioned it for the dog conditioning program, I would imagine this would get an animal in fantastic all around shape. I'm already seeing difference in muscle and its actually been helping correct my back problem I've had since my car accident.

[David Feliciano]

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_arti ... t_crossfit

[Gunny]

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_investigative/the_truth_about_crossfit

I am always leary of bash columns written by people whom have money to lose if people shift thier workout programs from the old muscle and fitness style to something more functional. My wifeis the head of a personal training department for gym here in Detroit. We saw the crossfit, and functional fitness movement to take hold out west...but it just started here. My wife has jumped the gun, and already implemented a functional program...in 2 weeks it became the most popular class in the gym.

Not that I think crossfit is flawless, not by any means. But I do think the folks writing the article above are going to soon be in the minority of trainers if this thing keeps it's momentum. Crossfit style programs are going to be the wave of the future. With backing from military, police, firefighters, mma fighters. that's stiff competetion. I also think that the Crossfit's new Public Affiars policy is pretty simple and pretty ballsy basically, The truth if a training program works is through competetion, not debate.

[Christopher Smith]

http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_investigative/the_truth_about_crossfit

Crossfit style programs are going to be the wave of the future.

Does anyone here remember this wave of the future?

[Gunny]

The difference with functionally based programs like Crossfit and jazzercise or tai bo.. Is they are rooted in the idea that they actually improve the kinetic movement of the body, for utilitarian uses. Such as pulling ones own body weight up, or explosively lifting something off the ground to above the head. or being able to sprint a 1/4 mile then have to do it again in few short moments...or even a combo there of.

The program has not been advertised on T.V., is more than a decade old. There is no need to debate it. Try a functional program. Does not even need to be crossfit. The proof is in the results.

I know that the wave of the future comment may have sounded silly....But mark my words. The gyms full of weights and treadmills are going to be replaced by gyms with lots of space, minimal free weights and a bunch of random equipment. Even in the current fitness world the buzz word is "core strength" this is something most athletes have known for a long time. but some how it has taken a long time to get to the public level. Why is core important? because it's functional, because it provides the base for all other movement. the more stable your core, the more likely you will get stronger, faster in all other parts of your body and keep yourself healthy.

Jazzercise and tai bo is rooted in popular culuture of thier time. Functional training is rooted in the fact that it makes better atheletes and provides more complete fitness.

[David Feliciano]

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The difference with functionally based programs like Crossfit and jazzercise or tai bo.. Is they are rooted in the idea that they actually improve the kinetic movement of the body, for utilitarian uses. Such as pulling ones own body weight up, or explosively lifting something off the ground to above the head. or being able to sprint a 1/4 mile then have to do it again in few short moments...or even a combo there of.

The program has not been advertised on T.V., is more than a decade old. There is no need to debate it. Try a functional program. Does not even need to be crossfit. The proof is in the results.

I know that the wave of the future comment may have sounded silly....But mark my words. The gyms full of weights and treadmills are going to be replaced by gyms with lots of space, minimal free weights and a bunch of random equipment. Even in the current fitness world the buzz word is "core strength" this is something most athletes have known for a long time. but some how it has taken a long time to get to the public level. Why is core important? because it's functional, because it provides the base for all other movement. the more stable your core, the more likely you will get stronger, faster in all other parts of your body and keep yourself healthy.

Jazzercise and tai bo is rooted in popular culuture of thier time. Functional training is rooted in the fact that it makes better atheletes and provides more complete fitness.

Gunny, I have tried several different functional programs.(much better than crossfit) This type of training is nothing new. You are the one who came on here raving about the newest fad and trying to spread the news.

BTW, these guys put those crossfit pansies to shame

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekZYPGxQ ... r_embedded

[Gunny]

Gunny, I have tried several different functional programs.(much better than crossfit) This type of training is nothing new.

Yes, I have seen the Stock footage of you and your Taliban buddies on the Monkey bars.

[AronSchH3]

That second video looks like 80-90% the same exercises you see in Crossfit.

[Gunny]

I am familiar with Defranco's Gym. Crossfit and Defranco...Are different programs rooted with different goals. Defranco is specific atheletic training, although thier exercises are functionally based...they are sports specific. Meaning that they are meant to improve the athelete in a specific movement or ability. Like tackling, running or throwing a football. Like getting you ready to be a better football player. Or making you stronger. They use the method of periodization. This encompasses the idea that working on specific abilities for pre-determinded peroids of time. Then moving on to the next period. So it would look like focusing on hypotrophy for a few weeks to build muscle, then strength to make the mass stronger, then power...converting strength into a specific movement, like jumping on those super high boxes. Then moving to training endurance. then you go to your season, or competetion...going on a manitence program that encompasses all the phases in short periods of time, while you are in your season or in the upcoming weeks to your competetion. This works great for football players, or someone getting ready for a test of some sort, like a police officer trying to get to pass a PRT.

Crossfit is non-sports or activity specific. They do not follow the periodization theory. They mingle all the phases. Trying to produce an athlete for something like boxing, or police officer training for the day to day job. This works better for people with no off season. This program is not meant to train the athlete to get better any one specific ability. But to improve the athletes overall fitness. Thier speciality is not having a speciality.

[David Feliciano]

That second video looks like 80-90% the same exercises you see in Crossfit.

You are correct, Dana. I'm not trying to put down crossfit, but rather point out that this style of training has been around for a while and there are better coaches out there than the crossfit crew.

That said, I think crossfit does a great job of modifying this type of training to allow people of all fitness levels to participate. I think its really cool that you are working out and finally doing something to try to fix your back. Best of luck

And with that David...I will not respond nor acknowledge any of your future posts. I think Chris is really doing his Job when responds to me, whether I like how he is doing it or not....You just post to try and get a rise, and you for some reason you like guys from Southern California for this.

I am familiar with Defranco's Gym. Crossfit and Defranco...Are different programs rooted with different goals. Defranco is specific atheletic training, although thier exercises are functionally based...they are sports specific. Meaning that they are meant to improve the athelete in a specific movement or ability. Like tackling, running or throwing a football. Like getting you ready to be a better football player. Or making you stronger. They use the method of periodization. This encompasses the idea that working on specific abilities for pre-determinded peroids of time. Then moving on to the next period. So it would look like focusing on hypotrophy for a few weeks to build muscle, then strength to make the mass stronger, then power...converting strength into a specific movement, like jumping on those super high boxes. Then moving to training endurance. then you go to your season, or competetion...going on a manitence program that encompasses all the phases in short periods of time, while you are in your season or in the upcoming weeks to your competetion. This works great for football players, or someone getting ready for a test of some sort, like a police officer trying to get to pass a PRT.

Crossfit is non-sports or activity specific. They do not follow the periodization theory. They mingle all the phases. Trying to produce an athlete for something like boxing, or police officer training for the day to day job. This works better for people with no off season. This program is not meant to train the athlete to get better any one specific ability. But to improve the athletes overall fitness. Thier speciality is not having a speciality.

[Gunny]

Ahh you got me!

[David Feliciano]

Ahh you got me!

I'm glad I did. This place is no fun without friendly banter. Any longer without a response from you and I might have had to make a music video in your honor.

Dana, you may want to try this on your rest days between crossfit work outs. It simple, quick and can be done at home. It did wonders for my back.

http://www.fixyourownback.com/Videos-of ... elief.html

[Gunny]

Also from even minor trauma caused by lifting heavy things...to trauma a car wreck cause Tiny little adhesions of scar tissue to form between all the tissues in your body, sub-cotaneous skin adheres to muscle, muscle to tendons and ligaments, even connective tissues to bone. This causes many problems and can defintly mess with Siatica.

This is not the most comfortable thing to do at first, but getting a foam roller and doing it after every workout will bust up those adhesions. I went to a seminar on this at my wifes gym. The trainer took a spatula looking piece of plexi-glass and put lotion on it, then took a student and laid them on table...and then pulled the spatula along thier muscles like you would if you were putting up wall paper. thier skin instantly turned black and blue where the adhesions had formed on his body.

He said a foam roller does the same thing to the deep tissues. It breaks all those adhesions up...I could feel it in my back, it felt cornflakes were crunching in my back, and it was uncomfortable like a deep tissue massage. But after a few sessions, no more pain, no more cornflakes, and my back has never felt better, better range of motion in my hips. There are videos on youtube about it. just type foam roller.

And for dogs, I massage Addies neck and back from time to time, and can feel the same cornflake crunching...I suspect from bite work. So, I use a rolling pin on her sometimes.

They are only like 20.00 bucks and last forver.

[Gunny]

And David I am aware that functional training is not new. It's just starting to gain some momentuem beyond athetic training though. I did state that Crossfit was more than a decade old.

Athletes have done this type of training since probably the Romans. Then gained some attention in rehabing stroke patients and people with Cerbal Pualsey...Yes that's probably spelled wrong. But it's not till the last 2-3 years that the general public has even considered as a method of fitness.

I am not a crossfit "activist" but it is the most readily available program. It's free, it's on the net, Everything is done for you...except the workout.

I do disagree about the level of trainers....Not that they are better. but they hold thier own. I took a level one Cert in Indy through work. And the trainers teaching there, one was a former Silver medialist in power lifting, one a former althetic trainer for the Kansas City Chiefs, and one a former BUDs instructor and a Coach for Ohio state wrestling.